"You're an idiot, you know that right?" he spoke with an almost clinical detachment to the whole thing as if he was just mentioning weather or plans for the day. There was a general tone of disdain but for Bakugo that was more or less his standard in speech. He was talking to Ochako in one of the courtyards, they were away from most other observers and people that could see them would see a female student taking a male student to somewhere semi private most assumed the conversation would be something romantic instead of being about killing someone.

Ochako for her part just looked frustrated, "I'm not an idiot Bakugo, my plan should work I just need help. Some backup to deal with her so I don't get overwhelmed." Her hands shook slightly as she spoke, she hadn't slept well since the hospital. She had heard that Deku would probably need more time to be able to move around. She wanted to make it easier for him, wanted him to be able to feel safe. Wanted him..she steeled herself again and faced Bakugo anger in her eyes now. "We both know this needs to happen, she abducted Izuku and might go for others. I'd think of everyone you would want to get rid of them. Or did being captured make you afraid?"

His eyes narrowed but he actually barked out a laugh, "Ok, that was kind of amusing. I get that you're trying to goad me round face, but you really need to work harder on it." He looked to the side, tapping his fingers against a tree trunk. "Ok, let's see if you actually even thought any of this through. If you can answer every reason that I think this is idiotic and will end with you getting killed, I might consider helping," He saw her opening her mouth to object and put up a hand, "If you can convince me it's not dumb you should be able to convince me to help, start talking before I decide this is a fucking waste of time."

Ochako gritted her teeth, she hated how he was speaking but she also understood that in his own way he did care. He thought it was a bad idea but he hadn't just reported her talking to him about it. He seemed willing to listen, not to mention that things between him and Deku had improved at least a bit. She needed to convince him, otherwise she didn't have much chance and she thought that if anyone might understand it would be Katsuke.

She began, "She's still out there, I don't think she's going to go for Deku because she's someone that doesn't want to fight unless she's sure she can win. He has pro heroes guarding him. All I need to do is go out and walk around town, I can be bait for her since she still seems to want to get me. She comes at me, you jump in to help, we overwhelm that little bitch and then I make her pay for what she did to Deku!"

The volme and intensity of her voice had been rising as she spoke, Bakugo put up a hand, "Ok, where to fucking start here? Let's begin with the fact that you're voluntarily making yourself bait for a psycho bitch that can shapeshift. You're basically begging to be taken out and if she's gone from being starry eyed to seeing you as a rival for shitty Deku she might not try for a capture she might just fucking gut you." He tried to play off that he was just annoyed but this honestly disturbed him a bit. Sure she was a bit obsessed with Izuku but this level of self destructive stupidity…that green haired moron had infected her too.

She sighed in annoyance ticking off on her fingers, "One, you're going to be there too meaning that you should be able to notice anyone coming for me from an angle I miss. Two, from what she told Izuku I think she does want to capture me, either to do a repeat of what happened to Deku on me or she wants to pretend we're friends and tell me all about it." Her fists still shook a bit, she wasn't sure if it was the memories of what had happened at the training camp or the thoughts of what she had done to Izuku that bothered her more. Regardless it had started to settle more of her thoughts on the villain. "Three, even if she's planning to ambush me I know she's out there and she doesn't know I'm trying to trap her."

Bakugo sighed, "Alright, let's get into the idea of me being with you. Fine, I follow or stay above they sure as hell know what I look like. She was smart enough to set up an ambush that took out Deku and I'm sure she'd do the same with you. Or she fucking decides to take me out first because she notices me and decides, 'why the hell not?' Oh, also, since you said she can turn into you that means I get to have to try to take down both of you at once because we're not playing the 'shoot her' game I'm just dropping both. Not to mention that all of this acts like the bitch might not bring backup. Assuming that I get the drop on her, I have a bit of a rep as someone violent, so all she has to do is play the cute innocent girl being attacked by the aggressive psycho student and suddenly a nearby hero restrains me, or at least hesitates long enough for her to gut you, grab you, or get away."

Uraraka just sort of stared for a few moments, that was a decidedly more aggressive and disagreeable than she would have expected. The worst part though was that he had a bit of a point on at least some of that. There was a part of her that kept coming back to the fact that Bakugo of all people seemed to be pushing caution. She took a deep breath, "I think she'll be alone since she was keeping him for herself…and according to Izuku this was personal. I don't think she'll have backup coming after me. Also I think she's probably going to be mad at me, she had to…" She stopped speaking, she was trying to stay calm but an odd mixture of anger and despair filled her when she thought about it. She clenched her fists again and made herself focus.

"She used my face to torment him, she had to use me to get to him. And apparently she also used me as a…reward. If he did what she asked she would take on my shape, talk to him like me, I don't know if it was some sick fantasy of hers or what but.." She noticed the look on the ash blonde teens face as she said this, he looked disgusted but there was something else there instead.

"So Deku went along with that shit… what was…never mind I don't fucking want to know." He shook his head, annoyed that he even had the thoughts of what happened in his head. He was pissed at Deku, pissed at him for getting captured. Pissed at him for breaking, pissed that this happened and he might have been broken by the little blonde psychopath.

Uraraka looked angrily at him, "He went along with it to try to protect me, to protect all of us! I was there then he was getting interviewed, they had that boy who could brainwash people use his quirk on him. He told Deku to tell everything that he was thinking, that had happened. Some of it was…cloudy but the reason he did it was that he was afraid that if she got out she would hurt other people. He was really afraid for his mom and for me. He…he was afraid of her but he managed to lie to her. He told her that we had nicknames for each other that were just for us…something that would throw me if he said it. He was sure he was going to die and the last thing he did was to try to make it so that I would be safe."

Katsuke sighed, "And you haven't really answered any of my points about this being a bad idea. Alright, let's say that Deku was able to do all that, you realize that you're basically undoing it by dangling yourself in front of her to be killed right?" He rubbed the bridge of his nose, at this point he wanted to leave but he was sure if he did she would just talk herself into doing it alone. He respected her enough to know that she should be smarter than this. He was hoping that he could get her to realize she was being stupid, or at the very least someone else overhear this and put her under house arrest. He debated turning her in himself but to be honest he was sure if he did that it would just blow up in his face.

"You also got attacked by her when you had backup and pretty much lost. I'm good, I'm damn good, but she has to have decent reflexes. How do you deal with that?" He didn't know it but he almost looked like Aizawa as he asked her that. Looking vaguely annoyed at the person he was speaking to with a kind of smugness. Instead of discouraging her though she actually collected herself.

"She ambushed us during a time we didn't expect attack and we didn't know what she could do. We do know now and more importantly right now is the best time to do this. She's probably going to be trying to recover him or get me, if we wait she might cool down enough to be smarter about it and bring backup. I'm asking you to help me while she's still not thinking about it."

There was an opening if he had ever heard one "Oh, you mean like you right now? You're not fucking thinking about this. I get that you're pissed that she used your face to fuck with Deku but it's a hell of a lot more than that. And it's making you act like a damn idiot, I thought you had better sense!" His voice raised a bit but he managed to keep himself from devolving into just shouting at her. His voice had a sharp edge to it and she cringed a bit at what he said. Maybe she wasn't fully aware of the most likely reason she was doing it, and confronting her had a 50/50 chance of working but at this point he saw an opening and decided to push.

"You're pissed because of your crush on him. You're pissed at her because what she did to him, not just because he's your friend but because you're into him. Fucking fine. Be pissed, use it as motivation to get better, use it as motivation to do something useful. But don't fucking try to commit suicide by yandere bitch because you're pissed about what she did to the guy who was too chickenshit to tell you how he felt and you were too chickenshit to tell how you feel. You have ideas here but they keep assuming you can get the drop on her. I am a fucking better fighter than you are and the league captured me."

Ochako smacked him, hard, he was less surprised about the slap and more surprised she let him finish speaking. She glared. "She used my face to hurt him, used my face to play with his head. Used my face so now when he sees me he's thinking about her. If he knows she's gone, if she can't do anything I can be around him without worrying I'll send him into a panic attack! Maybe you don't actually care Bakugo, but I do! And Yes, fine, this is at least a bit about me. But it doesn't change the fact that my best friend," she wasn't going to admit out loud her feelings just yet even though what he said felt right enough to sting, "is going to be living in fear of me. He's getting help but if he knows that we got her, that we beat her maybe she'll feel less overwhelming maybe she'll feel less all powerful to him."

"Ok, great, I'm glad you're so worried about Deku. But you're being an even bigger self destructive idiot than he is about it.' He sighed "Not to mention that I'm not wrong, you're not fucking thinking clearly here. Also what if she does get you? Or both of us?" That last part almost choked out of him but he brought it up. He was the reason that All Might had had to burn up the last of his power in that battle, he was the reason that suddenly everything was resting on his or that damn nerds shoulders now.

Ochako paused, she looked suddenly unnerved, "Ok, you want a better reason. If she wants to hurt me she can look like me. My parents are targets. And I can't just stay hidden in the school forever, I have to leave at least some of the time. If she was this obsessed…"

Bakugo looked at her then nodded once, "Alright fine, come with me."

"What? You're going to help me take her out?"

"No, we're going to fucking get some more help and bring that up, that was the first actual point you made that I can't get around. Deals a deal, but we're not doing this half assed." She followed him looking surprised that he seemed to be moving with purpose, if she didn't know any better it almost seemed like he had a plan himself…

"Hey Katsuke..?"g

"What is it round face?"

"Were you planning to help me anyway?"

"Not important, just shut up and keep moving,"

She carefully hid her smile.