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JustMakeSense chapter 7 . 8/20/2014 Wow. I know you've said that for the most part people like your Karen but I have to be honest, I really really don't and I honestly am not much Karen for the Jim in this story either. I mean Jim really seriously thinks it was as easy as this man who Jim admits to knowing was abusing the girl he (Jim) loves to at least some extent, yet he felt that Pam could just pick up and leave. Unless they wanted to go into hiding rather than to Stamford Pam likely saved Jimes sorry self and saved herself too by not just going off with Jim. But what is getting under my skin, really getting up under it and making me feel the need to scream is the way Jim and Karen are being with each other in spite of what Pam is going through. First we'll just put aside whether or not Jim honestly still loves Pam and could he honestly be IN love with another person already. We know he was in love with Pam for years in spite of Roy. We know that when he talked in the Christmas episode about rebounds and how they just make you forget for a little while the girl you really love, the one that broke your heart and how most totally accepted that he was talking about Karen as a rebound and Pam the girl he really loves. Lets look at it purely from the angle of him helping this broken girl. If you're going to do that it sometimes takes sacrificing yourself. Things like being giggly with your boy/girlferiend and certainly not saying I love you when that person, not to mention it being someone whose world you personally caused to implode because you said those very words to them just months ago. When that person who you supposedly still care about. The person in the very earliest stagest of accepting and trying to flee their abuse is right there you don't even need someone not to tell you not to say those things or flaunt the relationship because now that is a person who at least in the beginning needs protected from love. From beyond that, I felt the writers were pretty clear, maybe it has to do with why they didn't develope Karen more but I always thought it was pretty clear that Jim was pretty tight with feeelings like love. Look how long it took him to tell Pam. I don't think there's a chance he would be even saying as much as me too to Karen. Remember the freak out about her moving two blocks away? He values being just Jim and I don't think there's any way he would have given her a key and he should damn well feel good and guilty about Pam's surgery because he promised to keep her safe but because she was honest with him and told him the things she simply couldn't tell him before he threw a hissy fit and left her alone. Personally I think it wouls serve her right at this point to just come up missing. Jim isn't doing what he promised so let him worry and we'll see how long Jim and Karen's 'great love (more like lack of any love) last in the face of him worrying because he has no idea where his true love is and if she's in danger. I guess I mostly feel this Jim is written completely OOC, and I am very familiar with your work so I find this shocking. You normally seem to get them all pretty well, at least from my memory. Pam is also OOC but because of her situation she kinda has to be. Lastly Karen who is the true insecure jealous one of the three (oh and BTW, I think no matter what reason, Jim was far out of line telling Karen his suspicions and was very luck Pam talked to him at all after that. Jim was Pam's best friend, not Karen.) I know my own prejudices well, I hate with a passion Roy and feel the same about Karen. I find it amusing and kinda odd that you completely villify Roy who was a far more defined character on the show and was on for a far longer time. Seasons 1,2,3 and made appearances in at least one episode of every other season except ,aybe not season 4. I don't remember him in 4. Karen wasn't on until season 3 and in the beginning didn't get much air time. Season 4 she was in Branch Wars, Season 5 Lecture Circuit and I think season 7 two tiny bloops in Threat Level Midnight. Just, Very interesting to me. I say Thank you God that your Roy, the one that was stick Pam's face in it no matter what because she turned him down (Though myself and almost everyone i know believe there would have been zero potential between Jim and Karen had things not happened like that with Pam Stamford Jim was damaged whichn made him work hard to try and not think about Pam and move on. Slacker Jim would not have been interested in Corparate Climber Kaen but probably more importantly, Karen looked at Jim in Stamford and liked to a degree what she saw there. Scaranton Jim she saw the potential for raw material that she could mold into what she felt was the perfect guy but Stamford Karen I feel showed clearly that she had little interest or even tolerance for even a much modified Scranton Jim. Full on Slacker Jim, the guy Pam fell head over heals in love with, Karen would have looked at him as no better than Michael. Just another Scranton screw up. So there you have my thoughts. You tell a great story. At best I'm just not buying it and at worst it makes me feel a little (maybe a lot) sick. |
ftmill16 chapter 7 . 7/16/2011 Okay I'm way late to the party so you'll probably never see this but I decided to review anyhow. You write really well and tour stories are interesting. This one is really good and really keeps me reading. I've always thought that Roy was probably at the very least a bit physically abusive and sometimes wondered if that could be a backstory to why Pam always wore a cardigan and was so covered up. I mean we saw in season one how he exploded and pushed her to the door when he saw Jim holding her hadn, I always wondered. if that had been a real scenario, what would have been happening after they left the office? After the blow up in the bar in season 3 it just kinda cemented my views that Roy had a serious probem with his temper and I felt that I was right about the abuse. Aside from the physical stuff, I felt certain that Roy was mentally and verbally abusive, and most certainly neglectful. I am sure he never made Pam feel special and really, it was always obvious that Pam was very insecure about herself and really had no one (except her mom who lived far away and I suspect she hid a lot from her because she didn't want her mom to worry) to validate her thoughts and feelings. I always envisioned Roy as telling her quite frequently how lucky she was to have him, that no one else would have her, saying things to make her feel unattractive, probably insecure about her body etc... I could see him as someone who just toally broke Pam down and left her with little spirit. That's where Jim came in. He validated everything about her. He made her feel alive. He made her feel funny and atractive. I've always wondered how much damage Jim did in the episode The Secret in season 3 when he told Pam he had a small crush when she first started but assured her very emphatically that it was a long time ago and he was totally over it. It was probably at that point when she lost all hope of something better. All hope that maybe Jim actually DID have feelings for her, maybe she could have a better life. That was why IMO she really was shocked by what he said on Casino Night because she took him at his word and so when she said "I can't" I think she probably really believed that. I do want to say that you mentioned briefly that he almost killed her when she left him the first time, I would have liked to see you expand on that and tell us what happened. Anyhow, what prompted me to write so long after the fact is, I know you have said that a lot of people really like how you portray Karen, but I'm a very big exception to this. I didn't ever see Karen as understanding or accepting. I don't think she would have EVER stood for Jim taking Pam to the hospital let alone have Pam in his house over night, especially without Karen in the house too. Oh and KAREN suggesting that Jim spend another night with Pam? No way. I get the feeling that Karen was a different person before Jim, maybe the type of person you wrote. The Karen I personally saw was insecure, clingy and never ever accepted Jim for who he was. She wanted Jim for the potential she saw but I always thought that if someone (Jim maybe?) had told her that he was who he was. He wasn't interested in haircuts or expensive clothing and frankly there was no way he was interested in a job at corparate, I think Karen would have dropped him if she could not change him. I thought they made it clear that Karen would not tolerate Jim even interracting with Pam at work so no way would she have been okay with them being together in any way outside of work, or even being friends. My other problem is I felt the show made it pretty clear that Jim always was trying to have deep feelingsfor Karen, but no way did he ever even think he was in love with her. Also, I always thought it was portrayed that if Pam was clear and actually told him she was in love with him, Karen would be done. There would be no choice because Jim knew that Pam always had his heart. No way could he give it to Karen, or anyone else, especially not that soon. I also don't see Jim saying I love you or kissing Karen in front of Pam ESPECIALLY in that situation where Pam is hurting from abuse. I think he would know that would make it worse and Jim's a pretty sensitive guy. Anyhow, just what I took from the show and hly. Aside from that, I think you're an amazing author and I have not only read but also rereadhings way differentow I saw t many of your stories several times. Keep it up, you do a great job! |
InuGurl107 chapter 14 . 2/8/2011 This.. Wow. A beautiful story you have made here, and your author's noted made me smile every time. Congrats on the baby. [: And even though the story was rushed, I did squeal at the end. |
IsleofSkye chapter 14 . 2/27/2009 I know it's been a while since you finished this up, but I just wanted to tell you that this was a fantastic fic. I really enjoyed reading it. I hope everything went well with you and your baby! |
bingbangboom714 chapter 1 . 12/28/2008 Oh my gosh. I LOVED this story! I read this before and always thought I reviewed but it looks like I didn't. Just so you know, this story has been on my favorites list for a long time. It probably was one of the first 10 on my favorites list. Great job! It was awesome! I love this concept. This great story has reminded me to put you on my author alerts list. Sorry, thinking and typing at the same time. - |
Jessy chapter 14 . 8/1/2008 What a good story! I thoroughly enjoyed it! I'm so glad that I got to read it fully, all at once, because I would have been DYING for chapter updates! You're very talented and I hope you keep writing Office Fanfiction. You have a very good way of capturing characters emotions and keeping them true to their "TV" selves. Wonderful, wonderful story! Good luck with everything with your baby (and your older daughter too!), and I hope you continue to keep writing! I will definitley keep reading! |
onetreefan chapter 14 . 7/9/2008 oh man. what a story! very well done. :] |
wolfandthief chapter 14 . 6/27/2008 Aw great last few chapters. Sorry it took so long to comment, but aww I am happy everything was resolved and worked out, and aww fluff is good too. wOOt! - I hope the delivery went greatly. |
Aivilo chapter 14 . 6/25/2008 I actually enjoy my angst topped with fluff, so Brava! from me. Thanks for a good read and... HAPPY BABY DAY! |
hann789 chapter 14 . 6/25/2008 Great ending! So great! I loved the pink roses...that is too sweet. I need my own Jim... Good luck tomorrow with the baby! Best wishses! |
LoveMeSomeJAM chapter 14 . 6/25/2008 Aw! Yay for kitty-cat proposals! Very fluffy but I love it! Good luck with everything tomorrow! Make sure to tell little Logan I said welcome to the world! :) |
DannyPhantomPhanatic chapter 14 . 6/25/2008 AW! SO CUTE! Really short, but sweet and simple is always the way to go. :D I love it so much, all the way through. GO PB&J! Aw, I wish you good luck with your baby, I will pray for your c-section, yikes! Hang in there! WOW, great job! :) Keep the great stories coming please! |
Dizzy The Magical Fpoon chapter 14 . 6/25/2008 Awh! That was the perfect ending x3 Good luck with the baby! Of course you'll have to let us all know how it went somehow. |
Miss.Squints chapter 14 . 6/25/2008 Squee! YAY! I love this chapter soo much. Good luck for tomorrow. *hug* xx |
staceymarie195 chapter 14 . 6/25/2008 Yay! |